16 January, 2011

Rain, wind and sometimes it was nice.......Honest:

I left a message on James' phone saying I was just having a brew and bacon roll in the cafe.  I would be along shortly.  The rain was lashing it down and I figured a few more minutes would not harm our chances of a bit of decent weather.   To be honest, we were pushing our luck.  The forecast was severe gales coming in early Saturday morning.  The Friday (today) was just gales and rain - but clearing later according to my forecast and the worst due on Saturday.  Mike Knipe reckoned we were doomed and might meet up with us if the weather was not too severe on Saturday morning.   Knowing the forecast was most likely right based on Mike trusting it, I still drove to meet James.  He was parked up in his van having a brew as I pulled up.  The original plan was off and we had plan no 2.

It was misty, windy and the odd spot of rain warranted full waterproofs (technically Paramo is not truly waterproof according to some) and we shouldered packs to head out into the hills.  We had planned to train for the TGO Challenge with some training walks and James was testing some kit sent to him.  I was testing out what to take on the Challenge kit-wise as well.

The muddy track out of the farm at the head of Bowerdale led us up via a track heading to West Fell.   Mist marred the views but good banter and chat about blogging, kit, walks and everything else made the walk enjoyable.  At times the wind was still, depending on the shelter the hills gave and at times we felt its force tear into us in open spaces.  We knew it could get worse!  The wind strength was bad as it was.

In the Howgills


We kept moving until we decided we had a sheltered spot to rest and grab a bite to eat.  Again typical chat about kit choices and walks done and planned to do was had over a snack and drink.  The track along the ridge was rejoined after as we went along to the Calf.   We both noticed a strange shape in the mist.  What is that, we wondered? - and then we noticed it a was a couple out backpacking huddled over a map.  Their large packs made the strange shape in the mist until we got close enough to see them.  We said hi and moved on to the Calf.

The view was not too had today and the rain and mist meant we did not stay long either.  I phoned Mike Knipe about the meeting arranged for the next day.  It was agreed if it was bad weather Mike would not come.  I reckoned he was in for a lie in the next day.  We then took the well worn track down to Bowerdale and to find a camp spot.   The wind seemed to be silent in some spots as we descended.  Some views opened up and we made the valley to seek a wild camp spot.

Coming of the Calf

Descending into Bowderdale

At times gusts of strong wind tore down the valley and other times it was calm.  We walked on seeking a good sheltered spot and crossed the river back and forth seeking the best place, knowing it could get nasty later.  We then went back up the valley a way as we decided the spots back up would be best and chose a place across the river offering good raised pitches as it would most likely flood.  Shelters went up as the wind was again gusting down the valley.  I was very pleased the un-tried Trailstar I had taken with me was stable in the wind.  Meals and chat soon were under way as we settled in to spend a long night in the hills.  For a while it was calm and I got out to take a photo.   All that troubled us at this point was the odd shower.

Wild camp in bowerdale

Wild Camp in Bowderdale

I awoke to the sound of rain and strengthening wind.  I also noticed it was getting chilly as the draft in the shelter increased due to the wind.  I zipped up the bivy to keep the wind off me and confident in the stability of the Trailstar went back to sleep.  It was a wild night with very bad weather.  

I awoke to very strong winds and lashing rain.  No Mike was a certain thing.  James reckoned it was the worst weather he had wild camped in.  The forecast that day was 90mph on the tops and everywhere else an average windspeed of around 50-60mph was forecast and flooding as well.



We broke camp and the river crossing to get back on the main path out of the valley was not possible.  We noted another track on our side on the map and picked that up to get out.  Wild raging streams had to be jumped and the wind blew us about at times.  The valley was flooded and the river had burst its bank.  Mini waterfalls had formed everywhere.  We kept moving with soaking wet hill ponies dotted along the trail for company.  Our biggest concern was the river might burst its bank so badly as to threaten washing our cars and vans away.

Bowderdale beck

At this point all chat about how good the kit had coped with the weather bar the odd Paramo trousers leaking was gone.  James' comment that it was not safe to be in the hills was true and we were glad to have made the track at the valley exit heading back to the cars.  It was good to be out.  The track was now a stream and we followed it back to the road and the car and Bongo-mobile.  They were fine but river levels were rising rapidly.  We chatted briefly and stripped wet gear off and parted company after a fine walk and time despite the weather.   

31 comments:

Chris said...

Nice post. The video adds a lot to it and gives a sense of what it was like.

Lots of rain!

Cheers

Alan Sloman said...

I would have been tucked up in a nice warm bed with Mike on this one, I am afraid... Well.. not exactly with Mike, if you get my drift - (Far too "Brokeback....)

Frank said...

Take my hat off to you both. That looked like totally wild weather you had there. Great trip report.

Martin Rye said...

Thanks Chris. When the weather is like that photos don't look so good. Video is a better way to show what it was like. Wind on the first vid is nice compared to the next day.

Alan I expect Mike would agree with you. Up for a Challenge training walk soon then?

Hi Frank. It was wild but still good to be out. I have been out in some bad weather before but that was up there as bad as it gets for me.

John Dunbavin said...

Hi Martin,
living in Cumbria I saw the start of this weather coming in on Friday night/Saturday morning and decided a visit to my mum's in York was a better option. Just checked your web site after a break away for a bit and have a bit to catch up on. Your trip sounds like one of those to add to that experience bank. Nice report. John

James Boulter said...

That was a great 24hrs in the hills in good company Martin. It was nice to meet up with you. The extreme weather made a memorable trip but I think that we did the right thing getting out when we did. If I get weather like that on the TGO I will be seeking out the nearest bothy or B&B! A good write up and at least some photo's came out. I will do mine in the week but it will be light on photos as I wanted to keep the camera dry!

I really had to wrestle the bongo over the A66 that morning. A difficult beast to tame in the wind.

Martin Rye said...

Hi John good to hear from you. Hope to read some updated adventures of yours soon.

Legging it to a bothy is a must in conditions like that James. It was great to do a walk with you and we must do another training walk before the Challenge. I like a test sometimes to see what kit and myself can cope with. I actually enjoyed being out that night. But getting out was sensible as it was very bad. Till next time and hopefully some good weather.

Greg said...

Loved this one Martin. I'm originally from Tebay and as a boy used to wander up Bowderdale fishing for the small trout that lived in the beck. Magic.

Mike Knipe said...

Occasionally, I make the right decision....
Hope you dry out soon...

Moffat - Peebles anybody?

Martin Rye said...

I cant believe I have never been walking in the Howgills Greg. Stunning place and I will be back. Bowerdale is lonely and almost Scottish glen like. What a magic place to go as a child.

Good call Mike and that lost dog thanks you. I doubt you would have got their let alone walked judging from all the floods on the roads. Moffat - Peebles anybody? I fancy a crack at that still Mike. Fast and light as well. Just in case it goes wrong as it seems to on that route.

samh said...

Such lovely weather for a walk!

Chris (i-cjw.com) said...

Brrr, that made me shiver just reading about it. Heck of a way to test out your kit :-) Out of interest, what were you using inside the Trailstar (bivy bag, I presume?)

Alistair said...

That looks like an interesting shelter Martin. Had a look down Bowderdale when I was in the Howgills last year and it looked reall nice. Now I know it's really nice! Thanks for the report - the vids are great btw!

The Odyssee said...

Aye, it’s great to be out in weather like that, he says from the luxury of a comfy chair.
The trailstar does look the business although its not for me. I don’t want to be in a bivy i’d much rather have an inner tent. Like the Scarp.
But you never know one day i might try it.
Good post Martin and glad you both got back safely.

David Lintern said...

good report and liking the video, def gives a flavour of the wind in full effect. Looks like both shelters are up to the job too.

karl said...

Great adventure Martin. You did well sticking it out as long as you did. At least now you know your Trailstar should cope with our great Britsh weather.

blogpackinglight said...

Testing to the max. I like it.

Good to know that the limit hasn't been found for the Scarp. I'm even more impressed. Trailstar looks like the only tarp for strong wind, although a bit draughty.

I will be taking extra care on wet grass with my Fastpackers and I won't be getting Velez trousers!

Good old fashioned British winter weather. None of this snow stuff!

Martin Rye said...

Sahm it was positively fine at times. But at other times it was time to head home and dry out.

Chris I used a MLD Superlight bivy. Only condensation came from my breath as I turned on my side and feel asleep. If I add some short pegging points to keep the Trailstar tight to the ground in strong winds I might not need the bivy at all. Colin Ibbotson does not use one in his Trailstar outside of bug season.

Alistair that dale is great and I will be back to visit the Howgills. You should check the Trailstar out.

Alan a tent inner is so good and adds warmth with space. I am not finished with tents. The Scarp is too good not to use. But the Trailstar has nothing to break and is light and compact.

Thanks Dave and glad you liked it. I think in bad conditions vids capture so much more than a photo.

Karl it was a good test and now I can trust the Trailstar all the way as I do the Scarp. We do need to meet up and do a walk. We keep trying but must make it happen.

Robin the Scarp is bomber and wont be found wanting. Fastpackers are on paper good. I have a pair but the boy has them on loan. I would take great care on wet grass with them. Based on Terry’s comments on James blog the Cascade trousers are ok. I wont get the other ones. Conditions where interesting and I have been out in winds like that camping before but not the rain with it. All in all an interesting time.

Charlie Penny said...

Looks like you had a pretty intense night. That river really was rather full. Kudos to you both for heading out given the forcast.

terrybnd said...

You should do more of the video stuff, Martin. Brings another dimension to trip reports.

I like it.

Martin Rye said...

Charlie I wonder if me and James had bumped our heads going out in that. It was a great experience and the river was full on. Thanks for commenting.

Terry I did some Tube vids a while back but took them down. It was seeing vids by you and Roman Dial that made me reassess making them. I have done some vid inserts of summit views on recent walks. Out of Coniston comes to mind. I shall have a play and make a long version of my Cairngorm walk on the last time I was there. I wont make big long ones like you do but now and then I can knock something up. I will do more inserts on walk posts. Thanks.

kate said...

sounds like perfect tgo training! i'm always tempted by paramo, particularly for biking. do you really just need the one layer?

Martin Rye said...

Kate it was good training. Nice to be out even if the weather was bad. Paramo seems fine so far. I wore a base layer on Friday and added a gilet on Saturday under it.

Joe Newton said...

Wow Martin, that looks like some real weather! The fact that you guys managed to find some majesty and wonder in that maelstrom is a testament to the life affirming power of the wilderness.

Martin Rye said...

It is great to see nature at work Joe even when the weather is bad. I enjoyed the walk but it was good to get out when it turned nasty. Good training for the Challenge as well. Pitched my tent for several nights in the rain straight on my last Challenge and took it down in the morning in the rain as well. So knowing the Trailstar can cope was a bonus in my planning of the Challenge.

Joe Newton said...

Yes, the Challenge doesn't look like the kind of event where you want to be trying out new gear for the first time!

Martin Rye said...

I reckon Joe a lot will still take untried kit on the Challenge. At least the Scarp and Trailstar are up to taking the worst weather. It amazes me that some folks recommend kit based on a weekend trip in good weather staying in a B&B. As for bloggers testing kit if I see trip reports and overnight camps I trust the review a lot more than ones that don't show that.

terrybnd said...

You should do more of the video stuff, Martin. Brings another dimension to trip reports.

I like it.

Alan Sloman said...

I would have been tucked up in a nice warm bed with Mike on this one, I am afraid... Well.. not exactly with Mike, if you get my drift - (Far too "Brokeback....)

Alistair said...

That looks like an interesting shelter Martin. Had a look down Bowderdale when I was in the Howgills last year and it looked reall nice. Now I know it's really nice! Thanks for the report - the vids are great btw!

Martin Rye said...

Hi John good to hear from you. Hope to read some updated adventures of yours soon.

Legging it to a bothy is a must in conditions like that James. It was great to do a walk with you and we must do another training walk before the Challenge. I like a test sometimes to see what kit and myself can cope with. I actually enjoyed being out that night. But getting out was sensible as it was very bad. Till next time and hopefully some good weather.

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